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Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, is One...
When Jesus prays this prayer, He notes that "Our" God, is one.
But the Trinitarians say that Jesus here is referring to a plurality of persons within a Trinity, a godhead, you might say.
You don't say? So what Jesus is saying, by saying Our God, which also implies His personal God, that He is in fact His own personal God.
But that is precisely the teaching of LaVeyan Satanism. They mock religion completely and say they are all gods unto themselves.
So if Jesus in repeating the prayer found in Deuteronomy, is claiming that He is His own personal God, and that He is starting His own personal religious cult claiming Himself as God, then He must be a LaVeyan Satanist.
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But that is all absurd, just as we have been trying to tell you. There is no Trinity. Jesus makes as much clear right here, when He quotes the words in the prayer of Moses.
So if He says "Our God" but He really means Himself, then He is a bald-faced liar for speaking deceptively.
I'm sorry I had to post this message but you Christians are at fault!
You all teach such stupid drivel that the prophets will have to come in and clean up your mess.
The prophets were always the gatekeepers of the true religion.
There is no one else who decides what the religion states.
Not one prophet taught a Trinity, including Jesus. The only thing you can find is in the apostolic writings and those are not inspired scriptures. The prophets have the final say. If you are not a prophet, you will not understand.
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Tuesday, March 11, 2014
The Eternal Deceit of Trinitarians
Trinitarians are immensely fascinating people. I give them this: They are very cunning. The ingenuity with which one can deceive himself that three is one and one is three shows an incredibly high level of cunning.
But their real difficulty in getting people to accept their stupid and laughable doctrine is that they do not know the first thing about logic.
Among the most stupid thing I have ever heard them say is, after I have made a claim to the nature of God and to explain the God of the universe to the simpletons, is they say, "But God is eternal and infinite and so therefore we cannot understand everything about Him. So I reject your argument."
Yet then, when I say I do not accept the Trinity, they mock and ridicule me and make incredibly dogmatic assertions about how the Bible absolutely teaches that and that you are damned if you do not accept it.
Why, if we cannot understand even very straightforward teachings about God on logical terms, how can we understand purely absurd delusions that He really is a multifaceted, multiple personality Unity?
I have never heard something so stupid ever.
And the way they are so pushy and never accept no for an answer.
I have been physically accosted by Christian people simply because they disagreed with my personal opinion.
I have been thrown out of their synagogues and publicly assaulted and scourged.
And yet I hardly ever try to open a discussion about this stupid fable with them because they are so stupid and they do not even listen to what I say. They interrupt and they lodge insults and persona attacks.
This is how it goes:
"Tell me all of your doctrines one by one."
Me, "Well, I'd rather not go into a lot of detail because it is fraught with potential for disagreements and many people feel very passionately about their concerns and it can be difficult to have a fruitful conversation like that."
"Tell me what you believe. I will not try to persuade you against and I will respect your beliefs."
"Ok fine. I do not believe in the Trinity. I do not believe in eternal hellfire."
"Heretic!!! Burn him!!! He speaks with a forked-tongue, the devil!!!"
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And I'm thinking to myself god-damn it. These people are so fucking stupid.
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Why is it I have to accept EVERYTHING it is you say about God but you just insult whatever I say and suggest I am pretending to understand eternal things not meant for us to comprehend.
It is because you trinity-fags are all liars and horses-asses.
But their real difficulty in getting people to accept their stupid and laughable doctrine is that they do not know the first thing about logic.
Among the most stupid thing I have ever heard them say is, after I have made a claim to the nature of God and to explain the God of the universe to the simpletons, is they say, "But God is eternal and infinite and so therefore we cannot understand everything about Him. So I reject your argument."
Yet then, when I say I do not accept the Trinity, they mock and ridicule me and make incredibly dogmatic assertions about how the Bible absolutely teaches that and that you are damned if you do not accept it.
Why, if we cannot understand even very straightforward teachings about God on logical terms, how can we understand purely absurd delusions that He really is a multifaceted, multiple personality Unity?
I have never heard something so stupid ever.
And the way they are so pushy and never accept no for an answer.
I have been physically accosted by Christian people simply because they disagreed with my personal opinion.
I have been thrown out of their synagogues and publicly assaulted and scourged.
And yet I hardly ever try to open a discussion about this stupid fable with them because they are so stupid and they do not even listen to what I say. They interrupt and they lodge insults and persona attacks.
This is how it goes:
"Tell me all of your doctrines one by one."
Me, "Well, I'd rather not go into a lot of detail because it is fraught with potential for disagreements and many people feel very passionately about their concerns and it can be difficult to have a fruitful conversation like that."
"Tell me what you believe. I will not try to persuade you against and I will respect your beliefs."
"Ok fine. I do not believe in the Trinity. I do not believe in eternal hellfire."
"Heretic!!! Burn him!!! He speaks with a forked-tongue, the devil!!!"
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And I'm thinking to myself god-damn it. These people are so fucking stupid.
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Why is it I have to accept EVERYTHING it is you say about God but you just insult whatever I say and suggest I am pretending to understand eternal things not meant for us to comprehend.
It is because you trinity-fags are all liars and horses-asses.
Wednesday, February 6, 2013
To Trinitarians: Unitarian Thought
"I and my father are one" they like to say.
I can cancel that out real fast by quoting where Yeshua says "The Father is greater than I".
I. "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." [Matthew 22:37]
Are they of one mind? No.
II. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." [Matthew 24:36]
If they are one, then they are of one will, correct? No.
III. "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." [Luke 22:42]
If they are one, that means Yeshua is not subordinate to the Father? No.
IV. "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [John 5:30]
What about John 1 where the Logos is called God?
Doesn't the Scripture say that God is love?
Using the reflexive rule, if God = Love then Love is God. But that is not what the epistle teaches. Rather it teaches that God is a set of which love is a subset. God { love, y, z
Love is constituent part of God's nature.
Here in John 1 where the Logos is described is God, applying this same rule, we see that the Logos is not God Himself, as love is not a god, but a constituent part of God, then we see the Logos as being a constituent part.
The Logos is the mind of God. This Logos indwells the Son so that the Son, Logos indwelling is apart of God, as, "...I am in the Father, and the Father in me..." (John 14:11). A circumscribed square cannot be bounded by that same square so in light of foregoing principles we see that the Logos indwelling is that Word and that Mind that Yeshua speaks of in John 14:10 "...the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works..."
Therefore the Holy Spirit indwelling us asks us in the spirit of the epistles to be "conformed to the image of [the] Son" in the same way He has conformed to the image of His father by the indwelling of the Logos.
To recap, the Logos is the mind of God, the creative Word itself that is the circumscribed square bounded by that square and refers back to said oneness.
That oneness that Trinitarians speak of is a unity of spirit, not of personality as point I-IV show. Distinct personalities Yeshua subordinate to an all-powerful God.
I can cancel that out real fast by quoting where Yeshua says "The Father is greater than I".
I. "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." [Matthew 22:37]
Are they of one mind? No.
II. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." [Matthew 24:36]
If they are one, then they are of one will, correct? No.
III. "Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." [Luke 22:42]
If they are one, that means Yeshua is not subordinate to the Father? No.
IV. "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." [John 5:30]
What about John 1 where the Logos is called God?
Doesn't the Scripture say that God is love?
Using the reflexive rule, if God = Love then Love is God. But that is not what the epistle teaches. Rather it teaches that God is a set of which love is a subset. God { love, y, z
Love is constituent part of God's nature.
Here in John 1 where the Logos is described is God, applying this same rule, we see that the Logos is not God Himself, as love is not a god, but a constituent part of God, then we see the Logos as being a constituent part.
The Logos is the mind of God. This Logos indwells the Son so that the Son, Logos indwelling is apart of God, as, "...I am in the Father, and the Father in me..." (John 14:11). A circumscribed square cannot be bounded by that same square so in light of foregoing principles we see that the Logos indwelling is that Word and that Mind that Yeshua speaks of in John 14:10 "...the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works..."
Therefore the Holy Spirit indwelling us asks us in the spirit of the epistles to be "conformed to the image of [the] Son" in the same way He has conformed to the image of His father by the indwelling of the Logos.
To recap, the Logos is the mind of God, the creative Word itself that is the circumscribed square bounded by that square and refers back to said oneness.
That oneness that Trinitarians speak of is a unity of spirit, not of personality as point I-IV show. Distinct personalities Yeshua subordinate to an all-powerful God.
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